DIY Cruise Missile Shot Down?

Psignorian · Post by **Psignorian** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:51 pm

You know, I'm sure this upsets everyone. I'm surprised someone else hadn't started this thread by this time, even if it's only been two days. 'sides, if they're going to block his efforts in this direction, then are they also going to try and call a halt to everything and anything that could be used as a "cruise missile"? I think this is a genuine "crock of."

Hell, the least they could do is give you a contract -for them- or something. I'm sure you'd make millions if you could produce a product that cheap and with a signifigant payload.

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 4:39 pm

eh? did i miss something?

Mike Kirney · Post by **Mike Kirney** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:18 pm

Apparently, Bruce had a multi-million dollar X-Jet production deal lined up with some American financiers but the NZ government shot it down. To add insult to injury, the New Zealand Revenue Gestapo also came knocking on his door for some fine money on taxes he forgot to pay years ago. Read all about it at:

http://www.interestingprojects.com

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:44 pm

bit odd, also a bit harsh, to go for the actual Jet related part fo his life. can they really make you shut down your sites bruce?

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:44 pm

bit odd, also a bit harsh, to go for the actual Jet related part fo his life. can they really make you shut down your sites bruce?

Axt · Post by **Axt** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:11 pm

Cant say I feel sorry for Bruce as he was warned plenty of the ramifications of his actions. He attempted to ride the wave of terrorist hysteria to promote himself, and its turned around to bite him.

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OLD QUESTION to Bruce:

So now that I know your reading this, how about you answer this, what changes do you wish to see to stop terrorists building these buzz bomb weapons after you prove that it can be done? surround the cities with balloons and wires? or take yet more freedom away from the people through legislation. Answer please....
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OLD ANSWER from Bruce:

Banning or restricting GPS systems or any of the other components of an LCCM is as ridiculous as banning books. The only way such a threat can be addressed is for people to simply keep an eye out for any tell-tale signs of such activities. ie: if you have a new neighbor who has been carting sheets of polystyrene foam and stainless steel into his garage -- pop over and introduce yourself so you can see what he's doing.
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Ummm... nope Bruce, they will introduce legislation stripping more freedom from the normal people, isnt this what they have effectively done to you Bruce?

Stephen H · Post by **Stephen H** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:18 pm

ok... this means 1 of 2 things...
1) The New Zealand govt. has done ANOTHER one of its extreamly stupid things, as it seems to always do.

2) Bruce cant seem to get this project finished in time as is most stuff that he does (book, no weld PJ, PJ designer etc.) and is using our stupid govt. for a excuse, there has been nothing about this on the news or anything over here, i should go talk to my parents friend, he is a minister here!!

Stephen

Axt · Post by **Axt** » Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:39 pm

Stephen are you a member of E&W by any chance? just that I posted something very simular there, I do agree with both your points. Governments can and will do stupid things but also Bruce has invested so much time and energy promoting this thing which is what I consider a VERY hard project that hes now realised he cant get out of it without some little conspiracy theory.

Everyone seems to think making a cruise missile can be done because Bruce says it can without even thinking about the scope of the project ... its huge and very hard. Given the constraints Bruce has given himself ($/range/speed etc. again to play to the media that its an easy terrorist super weapon) I think its nearly impossible.

So I wont believe anything until it comes from a reliable source.

Andrew Parker · Post by **Andrew Parker** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:10 am

Terrorists don't need Bruce's help to do bad things. They are perfectly capable of accomplishing it themselves.

Take a group of energetic, intelligent, educated young men and bar them from girls, sex, movies, music or any form of artistic expression. Raise them to hate and despise anyone who does and then tell them that if they kill those who do and die in the process, then they will suddenly have all the things they were forbidden to have in life, with God's blessing. Sounds like motivation enough.

I think that Bruce pushed the limits a bit when he announced his cruise missile project, given the current climate of hysteria. I would not accuse Bruce if, tomorrow, a home built cruise missile did some mayhem. They were probably working on it for at least five or ten years. His basic idea is not new. The propulsion engine is the only unconventional element.

If the NZ government blocked some deal of his as retaliation for his cruise missile project, that would certainly be a bit odd. Harrasing a citizen with the tax man, that sounds typical of any government.

I hope Bruce weathers this through.

Andrew Parker

Stephen H · Post by **Stephen H** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:43 am

axt whats the E&W ??.. and no im not apart of it. There was a reasonibly big fuss about this project on the news and in the papers over here when this came out, so i could only imagine the same happening if it was scrapped!

But then again our govt. and militry and done lots of stupid things (eg. bye a boat knowing it would take a few million to make into a boat ready for war but forgot to budget for that few million then sold the boat) so i could believe what they are doing aswell!

Stephen

Post by **Mike Everman** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:32 am

If only he'd called it the $5,000 target or reconnaissance drone. Making it an inexpensive offensive weapon was clearly going to be balancing act with publicity benefit/risk.

Mike Kirney · Post by **Mike Kirney** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:33 am

After all the hoopla, he still has not produced a missle on his stated budget. What he has produced is an enormous amount of publicity for himself for under $5000 - articles featuring him were posted on CNN, the BBC, and he even got himself onto Scrapheap Challenge/Junkyard Wars. He may never make a living from selling pulsejets, but something tells me that Bruce Simpson will never find himself out of work either.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 4:21 am

Stephen H wrote:ok... this means 1 of 2 things...
1) The New Zealand govt. has done ANOTHER one of its extreamly stupid things, as it seems to always do.

2) Bruce cant seem to get this project finished in time as is most stuff that he does (book, no weld PJ, PJ designer etc.) and is using our stupid govt. for a excuse, there has been nothing about this on the news or anything over here, i should go talk to my parents friend, he is a minister here!!

Stephen

If New Zealand is taking a position, you would think Bruce could link us to it. He's good at posting links. What's the daily news say? I'd be interested in anything official or substantial, to hear both sides. And "if" someone were to produce a terror weapon and sell it to "the other side" for monetary gain, I can't help but think of that previous topic of the jumbo canon inventor. He didn't catch on but he did go out with a bang.
Mark

Stephen H · Post by **Stephen H** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 5:37 am

as pointed here http://panther.msrootserve.com/~admin11 ... .php?t=162 the link givin says its because he went bancrupt, i just looked in the main news paper here and there was nothing about it!

Stephen

Stephen H · Post by **Stephen H** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:29 am

http://onenews.nzoom.com/onenews_detail ... 54,00.html
theres a NZ news website, now did they get the infomation off bruce or off the IRD or govt. ?

Stephen

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