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Post by vhautaka » Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:47 pm

I guess that's just one of the fears all us males have to face sometime in adolescence... and yes, satisfying sex is the best medicine. :)

But it doesn't seem to be any easier for the opposite sex with all their face, hair, boobs etc. "problems"...


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Post by Bruno Ogorelec » Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:52 pm

Viv wrote:Yes but on the other hand Bruno how would you have felt if a close male friend had commented the same thing:-)
What do you mean by "if"? Not only did a friend once make a similar suggestion (a bit more veiled) but a basketball coach did the same thing while I was still in high school. I guess it helped orient me towards motor racing as the sport of choice.

It took me almost 30 years to learn to tolerate gay people. When I was 45 or so, I worked -- and became a good friend with -- a guy who admitted to being gay. He was such a great person that he helped me overcome my aversion. We were even able to talk sex and laugh about it. It helped that I was not his type, I guess -- he was heavily into muscular macho men. It was a very illuminating experience. Didn't change my taste, but did change my thinking.

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Post by Bruno Ogorelec » Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:54 pm

vhautaka wrote:But it doesn't seem to be any easier for the opposite sex with all their face, hair, boobs etc. "problems"...
You're right, Ville. I'm really thankful to God (or whoever) I'm a man. Not easy, but vastly easier than being a woman.

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Post by vhautaka » Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:37 pm

All the gays I know are smart people, curiously most of them musicians.

Still, I can't imagine the hells some of these people have had to go through both inside and out of their own heads, while growing up.

Intolerance is so easy, I for example grew up in a religious countryside environment and even though I grew out of the religion and most of the jerk ideals as a kid, I had some serious deprogramming to do once I got out of there. Internet has been a great help. :)

We even had a religious grandma-type teacher at 3-6th grades, who didn't hesitate telling about Sodom and Gomorrah and such. I think many of her teachings would be illegal today...


A couple of years back I wrote an article about the life and work of Alan Turing, and was pretty impressed by his mad scientist experiments and the ideas concerning computers, AI, and the structure of living organisms.
Any lateralscience.co.uk readers might be interested in Turing, too :)

But the end was nothing but a disturbing lesson in tolerance. The man who helped win the sea war by decoding * messages, committed suicide by cyanide after a gay scandal, being banned from his workplace and having received a chemical castration treatment full of side effects. A great mind lost forever, just when the first computers based on his ideas were starting to change the world.

Just compare his fate to all the * scientists who got amnesties and complete new lives serving the Allies after the war...


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Post by vhautaka » Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:41 pm

Hehe, the board seems to filter out the common name of the old German National Socialist party. Sorry if using it is offending to somebody.


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