FDEs
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what is a derivative? (re: FDEs)
This was at the bottom of the last page and I feel it was prematurely
advanced to the 'back' of this thread due to last post.
This is important to know because of what's to come next.
advanced to the 'back' of this thread due to last post.
This is important to know because of what's to come next.
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central difference formulae (re: FDEs)
So, here we have formulas for f'(xj) and f''(xj) whose values at
a point xj can be determined by evaluating the function at
the points xj-1, xj and xj+1.
The error decreases as one makes smaller the interval, h. The
'run time' will increase though.
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central difference formulae (re: FDEs)
Appears to be, Mike.
Here is a repeat of the last two:
Here is a repeat of the last two:
When working with structural components calculating the deflection and such, may give an idea about how the structure will behave. Depending upon the Factor of Safety "allowed" may tell more as to why a structure appears very rigged for certain applications.
Sometimes you find yourself in weird areas, such as narrow load bearing columns where standard equations miss a buckling effect. Euler has some interesting formulas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckling
Sometimes you find yourself in weird areas, such as narrow load bearing columns where standard equations miss a buckling effect. Euler has some interesting formulas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckling
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discretization of the deflection (re: FDEs)
Pics are back online ...
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In those 'weird areas' where you cannot find a 'canned' formula
that applies, a numerical method is your only resort.
Euler was a prolific man; I see his name in numerical methods,
engineering mechanics and fluid mechanics books all the time.
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This is the beginning of the numerical approach, for which some of
you have patiently been waiting. I shall give it to you, the reader,
in 'bite size' chunks. If I have 'done a good job' in my preliminary
posts, I think some of you will 'pick it up'.
NOTE: M(x) means M is a function of x, not M times x ... I have
tried to be consistent and where two terms are multiplied together, I
have used a 'centered dot'.
NOTE #2: the notation, yj+1, means y(xj+1), etc.
NOTE #3: the f(x) term in the middle on the right hand side of the
central difference formula should have been written, f(xj) or more
compactly, fj.
NOTE #4: j and i are 'dummy variables' and can take on the values
0, 1, 2, 3, 4 ... n.
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Thanks PyroJoe,PyroJoe wrote:
When working with structural components calculating the deflection and such, may give an idea about how the structure will behave. Depending upon the Factor of Safety "allowed" may tell more as to why a structure appears very rigged for certain applications.
Sometimes you find yourself in weird areas, such as narrow load bearing columns where standard equations miss a buckling effect. Euler has some interesting formulas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckling
In those 'weird areas' where you cannot find a 'canned' formula
that applies, a numerical method is your only resort.
Euler was a prolific man; I see his name in numerical methods,
engineering mechanics and fluid mechanics books all the time.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is the beginning of the numerical approach, for which some of
you have patiently been waiting. I shall give it to you, the reader,
in 'bite size' chunks. If I have 'done a good job' in my preliminary
posts, I think some of you will 'pick it up'.
NOTE: M(x) means M is a function of x, not M times x ... I have
tried to be consistent and where two terms are multiplied together, I
have used a 'centered dot'.
NOTE #2: the notation, yj+1, means y(xj+1), etc.
NOTE #3: the f(x) term in the middle on the right hand side of the
central difference formula should have been written, f(xj) or more
compactly, fj.
NOTE #4: j and i are 'dummy variables' and can take on the values
0, 1, 2, 3, 4 ... n.
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Matrix inversion in 2 simple steps (re: FDEs)
Excel has some powerful tools.
Let's invert the matrix, A.
Define Matrix, A
1. select cells C14:M24 and click Insert - Name - Define - A
Select where you wish the inverse to be located
2. select cells C27:M37 and type in window
- minverse(A)
- and then press Ctrl-Shift-Enter (3 keys simultaneously)
(c.t.)
Voilà! there it is! Rather easy, n'est-ce pas ?
Let's invert the matrix, A.
Define Matrix, A
1. select cells C14:M24 and click Insert - Name - Define - A
Select where you wish the inverse to be located
2. select cells C27:M37 and type in window
- minverse(A)
- and then press Ctrl-Shift-Enter (3 keys simultaneously)
(c.t.)
Voilà! there it is! Rather easy, n'est-ce pas ?
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compare 'fdm' and 'exact' plots {re:FDEs}
For plotting purposes, we need to compute xi/L (the station numbers).
Please see previous pic.
6. type xi/L in cell F39
7. type =B14/L in cell F40
8. select and copy this into cells F41:F50
- this is done by left mouse clicking cell F:40 and 'dragging'
its lower right corner down to cell F50
We are ready to plot the numerical solution against the
analytical one that I (we) did previously.
(c.t.)
The analytical (exact) maximum deflection is 2.396 and
the numerical (fdm) value is 2.415 . The fdm method differs
from the exact at this location by a mere +0.793% (< 1%).
If you wish to experiment, change the value of h.
Please see previous pic.
6. type xi/L in cell F39
7. type =B14/L in cell F40
8. select and copy this into cells F41:F50
- this is done by left mouse clicking cell F:40 and 'dragging'
its lower right corner down to cell F50
We are ready to plot the numerical solution against the
analytical one that I (we) did previously.
(c.t.)
The analytical (exact) maximum deflection is 2.396 and
the numerical (fdm) value is 2.415 . The fdm method differs
from the exact at this location by a mere +0.793% (< 1%).
If you wish to experiment, change the value of h.