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Post by larry cottrill » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:49 pm

Mark wrote:Strange little weapons. I was reading a plane would fly over low at a high speed and drop these guys.
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I read here they could penetrate 24 inches of sand. The topic is a few paragraphs below where the picture apears if you don't find it right away.
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I had one of these years ago. My dad said they would go clear through an engine block and into the pavement below. They are not "solid iron", they are hardened steel like an armor-piercing round. The fins are a little single-piece sheet metal stamping riveted to the rear end.

It's interesting that we now use huge (several hundred pounds) nonexplosive guided bombs to destroy small targets without collateral damage. Of course, I don't know what those are really called. They are basically a steel casing filled with concrete. A surpise gift to plop down in the middle of the table where a bunch of bad guys are sitting around drinking coffee and planning strategy. Considered highly effective once you know your target point.

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Post by Mark » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:20 pm

I almost bid on one of these which was made of tungsten, it was for sale on eBay. It was a tank killer and fired as well out of a tank. The item ended up selling for around $200 I think. It was one heavy lawn dart, and again it just used the speed principle to penetrate a tank.
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Post by larry cottrill » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:48 pm

Mark wrote:I almost bid on one of these which was made of tungsten, it was for sale on eBay. It was a tank killer and fired as well out of a tank. The item ended up selling for around $200 I think. It was one heavy lawn dart, and again it just used the speed principle to penetrate a tank.
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I recently met a retired armor captain who led a tank group in Desert Storm. He claimed that when they were lucky enough to find one enemy tank behind another, this round could take them both out with a single shot, because the round will completely penetrate the first tank with enouhg momentum left for the one behind it. He passed around a tank round with a similar split sabot - however, it was just a stainless practice round, of course, not as sharply pointed and somewhat thicker bodied. He also claimed they were able to get almost ideal mobility because these rounds and the aiming systems used are so good that they achieve "one shot = one hit" in the field under battle conditions, i.e. they can move to a new position immediately after firing each shot, since every shot is dead on.

A hit by this round basically generates heavy spalling of bullet-size supersonic shrapnel all over the inside of the target tank, usually resulting in immediate detonation of the stored cannon rounds, blowing the turret off into the air. As a result, most Iraqi tanks were abandoned soon after the start of battle, once the first few were observed being directly hit.

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Post by Mark » Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:23 pm

One of those heavenly bullets.
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Post by Bruno Ogorelec » Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:31 pm

I've looked at an enemy battle tank under combat conditions and it's not a pretty sight. Believe me, you'd rather have tigers coming at you through the brush. You can mow those down with a salvo from an assault rifle. A tank is a great deal more impervious. That said, I've always considered myself lucky to be on the outside. I would NEVER have the guts to be tank crew. It's a death trap.

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Post by Mark » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:12 am

Cute little engine.
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Post by Mark » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:03 am

When I was 12, I bought 3 fifty pound bags of this stuff from a fertilizer company in Miami for only 9 dollars. But anyway, I only used about a hundred pounds before we moved. A large/jumbo coffee can full of KNO3 and sugar makes a big cloud above your house and very high flames. I was enamored with potassium nitrate as a kid, the pretty violet colored flames and sizzle. The sugar cost me more than the nitrate per pound.
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Post by Mark » Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:17 pm

I wonder how hard it would be to make your own Cline regulator or something just as good? Might be a fun little project for the A students.
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