Well,I don't seem to have many to be ruffled anyway, ha-ha-ha...Mark wrote:Didn't mean to ruffle feathers.
A pulsejet would be good to ruffle feathers, by the way. It alternately blows in two directions. Ideal.
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Well,I don't seem to have many to be ruffled anyway, ha-ha-ha...Mark wrote:Didn't mean to ruffle feathers.
A long time ago, some internet guy had all these shapes for sale, a ton of valveless pulsejets you could choose from. It was if someone was doodling on a page and drew perhaps twenty schematics per page, and all of them were valveless, like some Tinker Toy plans you get with a jumbo box of Tinker Toys. I discarded the print out I made thinking this guy was delirious, almost any twist and shape was presented on several pages and he would build the shape of your choosing. It's good to keep in mind that a Mo-Fo lot of designs have be tried by greedy, diligent, or lovesick engineers long before many of us were even born, just as we wrestle to invent some new way of making fuel and air do our bidding.brunoogorelec wrote:Well,I don't seem to have many to be ruffled anyway, ha-ha-ha...Mark wrote:Didn't mean to ruffle feathers.
A pulsejet would be good to ruffle feathers, by the way. It alternately blows in two directions. Ideal.
Feathers ruffled and blown? Lovely fondlings? This discussion is getting awfully sensual. I might have to put up some porn if this keeps going. I think most if not all individual technological ideas or paradigms have been discovered and attempted by now. Modern innovation comes from combining discrete and diverse ideas into new devices or finding new uses for old machines. Using new-fangled manufacturing methods to produce old-fashioned objects is also an area where innovation still has room to advance. Somebody once told me that in 1973, Rolling Stone magazine had determined that all possible harmonic and melodic combinations of musical notes in every key of the 12-tone scale had been tried, and that every 'new' compostition after that year was really just a collage of things that had come before. There are probably even fewer technological ideas out there than there are musical ones because technology generally has to perform a specific task to be of some value, whereas music just has to please one other person besides the composer to have 'validity'. Valveless pulsejets are very restrictive when it comes to refinement because they are really just a tube. Either your tube pulses or it doesn't. There are only so many shapes that will support such pulsating combustion, and those seem to have a given proportionality to them. In contrast, the ultimate example of petty innovation is the automobile, where every little piece of matter involved has a patent-holder for it, from the unitized body and frame, to the little clip that holds the spring that makes the cigarette lighter pop out when its hot enough to light your smoke.Mark wrote:If it is too "easy" to imagine, it may have already been tried. That goes for anyone who thinks they have arrived there first. Remember, many lovely shapes have been fondled.brunoogorelec wrote:A pulsejet would be good to ruffle feathers, by the way. It alternately blows in two directions. Ideal.Mark wrote:Didn't mean to ruffle feathers.
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Yozer- Joe sucks down that tepid Canteen Cup of Instant Maxwell House repleat with powdered milk, washing down that cold green can of Spagetti w/Meatballs. Soon he'll break out that four-pack of Luckys and settle down to a serious smoke. He'll save that little pack of paper for cleaning the bore of the trusty Garand. He can always wipe his ass with the Firt-Sargent's laundry.Mike Everman wrote:OK, I have to do this, please forgive me...
I rankle a bit on the whole notion that everything has been invented before. Just because someone visited it before, you still invented the approach. Things can be invented originally many times, and you still have the distinction of having brought it forth from the ether. And remember that most times, simplicity is the hardest won aspect of a good solution. One of my patents has everyone saying "well of course you'd do it that way" but no one did, or they dismissed it when they thought of it, or they weren't persistent inough to go through the mental and physical iterations it required.If it is too "easy" to imagine, it may have already been tried. That goes for anyone who thinks they have arrived there first. Remember, many lovely shapes have been fondled.
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Bruno, there is very little chance of originality without a great deal of research into what's been done before. Sure, we now have tools and materials that can reduce the necessity of a great deal of experimentation, but if you are going make a goal out of a very low (so far never reported) specific fuel consumption or low noise or both; then clearly not enough approaches have been tried.bruno wrote:So, who cares about originality?