Gluhareff 130R power failure issue still open ... Any Idear?

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Post by Viv » Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:41 pm

Mike Everman wrote:I found some ceramic putty at McMaster.com that you might use to tie the coils together... it's used to repair furnace bricks.
Is it an insulator as well Mike?

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Re: 130R Power Failure

Post by Viv » Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:43 pm

Luc wrote:Okey,

Onnnnnnn .... Poor Vivvvvvvvv.

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high temp hose

Post by decook1110 » Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:22 pm

Check Out www.mcmaster.com and look up part number 5425t16

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Post by patrick35 » Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:25 pm

HI ALL ..

ceramic putty is a good idea , but i personaly think if there is litle vibration the putty will break and get out of the engine at speed of sound ,,,
and i think too , that will rub the coils , we need someting smooth , the coil are very thin , 0,020 " . in the past we have blow some coil because they was rubbing against the combustion chamber .

and considering welding them by the outside radius of the coil it's possible but with the termal stress i think the coils will blow up on weld junction and at 1000 $ canadian price for the 2 coils my boss will jump on me if they blew in less then 10 min ...... oupssss

go to bed now , if i made the coil tomorow it's better to have all my head ..... hahaha .

PATRICK .

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Post by Viv » Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:49 pm

Thats a a nice site Dave (it is dave yes?) the flexible hose looks ok, I wonder if it based on the belows construction method?

Patrick, get a good nights sleep we need you on top form tomorrow!

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Post by decook1110 » Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:00 am

I beleive its a bellows hose. We use a similar high temp high pressure bellows hose from a local supplier below

Detroit Flex www.hosenow.com 248-280-1171,

but that would be special order, more time and probably cost more. McMaster Carr is great, I order everything I can there for work. Best sales website I've come across and I order everything online, and if I order by 2pm, its usually in our shipping dept by next morning. They have several wherehouses the one in Ohio is probably why I get stuff next day in Michigan, and that is at normal ground shipping rates, not UPS red or blue.

No I'm not a McMaster Carr agent or get a commission, but every now and then I come across something that really works and can't say enough good about it. Now on nuts and bolts, they are cheaper at the local hardware store, if you have the time to run over. You do pay a little for the convenience.

I feel this way about Solidworks which you guys are using. I'm having to use Pro-E which is a real drag when you know SolidWorks...

Yes it's Dave, I couldn't figure out how to get it do display a nick name instead of my logon name. I've got enough things to try to remember so I stick to one logon name for everything. I've never had a conflict using decook1110 as a username anywhere....

Oh and another solution would be six 90 degree compression fitting, see PN 5182K734 at the same site, you could set up something like and S trap in a sink drain, just loosen up the fitting, slide Nozzle to new location and retighten the compression fitting. This is meant to be an articulating joint like on aircraft landing gear, the jonts will rotate but will not slide in the compresstion fitting.


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More hose info

Post by decook1110 » Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:09 am

McMaster is limited to 1/2 inch and bellows line that diameter may be a bit restrictive for a long length. If my memory serves me right, the nozzle line is 5/8 of an inch and the nozzle throat is .250 . Correct me if I'm wrong.

Any way, Detroit Flex has the belows hose in 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, 3/4, 1 , 1 1/4, and up to 8 inches. They also weld on any fitting you want, from pipe to compression to 37 degree flare. But its all custom stuff, the 1/2 line is probably in stock at McMaster.

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Recording stuff

Post by Dave » Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:01 pm

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You moved fast on the recording equipment. Where did you find the stuff so fast and what mic did you end up with?
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Flex hose

Post by Dave » Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:07 pm

Dave (decook1110)
I checked out the parts you found on the McMaster. This may be a nice solution to the problem.
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Buffalo and Snow

Post by Dave » Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:10 pm

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The weather had finally cleared for a bit and had warmed up and rained enough that only the glaciers formed by all the snow plowing and dumping remained. However, your asking must have tempted the gods of snow, because it is back again this morning.
Now if I just had a working pressure jet I could clear my driveway in record time! On second thought, the resulting puddle of blacktop might prove troublesome to drive through.
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Re: Buffalo and Snow

Post by Viv » Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:49 pm

Dave wrote:Viv
The weather had finally cleared for a bit and had warmed up and rained enough that only the glaciers formed by all the snow plowing and dumping remained. However, your asking must have tempted the gods of snow, because it is back again this morning.
Now if I just had a working pressure jet I could clear my driveway in record time! On second thought, the resulting puddle of blacktop might prove troublesome to drive through.
Dave
Dave, you may be right! it was really cold here towards the end of the day and then at about 8pm it started to snow, we ended up with about an inch!

Doesn't sound a lot I know by your standards but its rare ish for us at this time of year in the thames valley.

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130R Power Failure

Post by luc » Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:34 pm

Thanks Mike,

I will look into it. But remember ... Ceramics is a glass base material and has a tendency to be fragile. I saw this engine ripe off a 1/8" thick steel plate like a piece of paper, and without behing in contact with it ... Just by vibration and sound.

But I will look into it.

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Post by Mark » Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:49 pm

It seems like the coils in the Gluhareff are going to be the main concern of engine failure, even though there are no moving parts, a thin-walled length of coiled tubing just seems fragile with all the vibration going on.
I wonder if the same thing could be accomplished by any other means?
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130R Power Failure

Post by luc » Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:22 pm

Oupssss ... Mist a few post.

Guys ... I am bushed this morning. Did'nt get a good night of sleep. Turned and turned and turned. Thinking, dreaming about this damn engine (Mannn ... I need a life). Diane told me this morning, and I quote :"You know Luc... Heinstein was a genius ... But he was also crasy".
Ouchhh ... Right in the kisser ... She made me think.

Okeyyy ... Back to this engine ....
Luc
You moved fast on the recording equipment. Where did you find the stuff so fast and what mic did you end up with?
Beep Beep is my middle name Dave. You answered my question and gave me the models (At the same time the spec.) and I turn around to a local acoustic specialis ... And told him "I want this" ... and got it. As simple as this.

As for the debate for olding the coils in place and if the bars are gonna melt. let me comment on this ... We have Inconel here ... He he he. Also remember, last week we destroyed the "Orifice Myth" and proove that even if the orifice Dia. changes, it has little effect on the intake stack and engine temp. Unless we exagerate the changes. Well again, remember that the biggest reasons those SST-321 .020" coils are going in, is to blow-up that other Myth. Beleive me guys, if I see no changes in the engine and intake stack temp. Those coils can blow-up, cracks and BURNNNNN. I won't care at all. This will be my biggest giff to the PressureJet comunity ... Destroying all those lies to keep guys like use from building engines.

And if one day, some buiness like you know who, who made their golden days triving on lies, lack of knowledge and hiden secrets, goes out of buisness ... Welll, I won't even be sorry for them. Hearn your money the honest way ... Not on lies, my father always told me.

So ... This will mean one thing ... The SST-321 age will be over as far as pressure jet are concerned.

And I am CONVINCE ... This will be the case here. I don't expect to have a better engine and higher temp. with those coils. So, don't sweat over this, they will probably come out faster then they got in.

Yeappp ... like Patrick said ... $1000.00 for 47 years of secrets ... That cheap.

As for the hose, thanks guys. As of now, I am waiting for technical info and prices from yours and my sources. Will see ....

Cya,

Luc

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More thoughts on coils.

Post by Dave » Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:16 pm

Hello All:

Just a few quick thoughts on the coils:

- If resonance does turn out to be the problem and we have difficulty suppressing it with bars, clamps, etc… can we solve the problem another way? EG:

o Redesign the coils to resonate at a frequency that does not interfere with the operation of the engine.

o Redesign the coils to resonate at a frequency that will contribute to the operation of the engine.

o Eliminate the coils altogether by doing something radical like a double wall combustion chamber. The stresses would be tremendous, but think about the surface area available to vaporize fuel injected into the space between inter and outer jacket.

Dave

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