FWE Problem With Plans?
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FWE Problem With Plans?
I recently build a FWE for my Project, But it never starts up. . .
i have a good ignition source, a electric blower for air, and a propane tank for fueling.
Could any one Please Check out my drawings, ,whether it has any mistakes on them. . so tat i would correct them and start my engine.
Thank You in Advance.
i have a good ignition source, a electric blower for air, and a propane tank for fueling.
Could any one Please Check out my drawings, ,whether it has any mistakes on them. . so tat i would correct them and start my engine.
Thank You in Advance.
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Re: FWE Problem With Plans?
Hi , I've built a few of the fwe variations,it looks like a good plan to me,its a lady Ann Boleyn,there's a plan on here by Larry cottrill,also, I've had good luck with the fwe engines,it is a Balancing act with the air,you need low pressure20 to 40 psi&start about 8" or 10" away from intake&find the air over a coke bottle sound,I use propane&a hi flow torch set up,like a turbo torch or weed burner set up.
Last edited by gettylee on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: FWE Problem With Plans?
You than move in steps closer & increase gas Simultaneously,she should start to run when you get about a inch away with your air nozzle, there is a nice air&fuel system on Larry's drawing,that ide like to try, it really is a balancing act! Its all about accustics, try to keep that coke bottle sound
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Thank you for the suggestion. . . i will test the engine again with in one or two days. . . i will keep posted. .
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Re: FWE Problem With Plans?
Nice work. Can't tell from the pics, but don't forget your intake flare if you have not formed that yet.
Mike Often wrong, never unsure.
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I use a small propane torch set up to have a flame just licking the intake & when you give it air,you can kinda judge the turbulence,you want turbulence,& burbles,pops,etc... the flame helps me because you can see the turbulence,instead of hearing it,because you will have earplugs in,I make the injector out of break line&pinch the end&put it about 1/2" into intake.you do need lots of propane pressure,a bigger tank works better&a small 14oz tank,will have to be submerged in warm water,or it will freez up quickly!
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You will need the flare,&FYI,that is a very good engine,power per weight,I want to fly a plane with that style engine,mabey radient heat can keep a onboard 14oz tank from freezing so quick,? Sounds kinda scary! But it may work?Mike Everman wrote:Nice work. Can't tell from the pics, but don't forget your intake flare if you have not formed that yet.
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I have built an another one, i need to know weather the intake flare is ok with this one. . . also no problems with the gas tank. i have a 14 kilograms tank. . .still facing trouble in start up. . .i'm working on it.
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Hi,for me,the little fwe should use less gas & is a bit easyer to start,I put injector(pinched break line) 1/2 to 1" down intake,centerd seems best,with air squirt nozzle in one hand 10" away&other hand on lp valve,20 or 30 lbs psi. Crack the gas&give it the air,try to get burbles,move in closer in steps&increased gas each step closer,I go in 4steps approx.once it starts,you can increased the gas.
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Hi,I've noticed that it would be easy to convert the ladyann,to a hpx,longer is better for starting,it seems,there's pics of my hpx&others, on hpx goes massive, although, that is a nice lady Ann boleyn,it may be finicky?but I bet its a great engine,power per weight,for a Plane:)
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Hi,here is a suggestion,I use the small air nozzle,air squirter,with a aircompressor@20 to 30 psi.I am able to direct the air stream more precisely,at the small intake,I move the airstream to find the sweet spot,kinda like a flute,trying to get burbles&harmonics,than move in closer&increase gas simultaneously,it takes a bit of patients, but ya get more proficient after you figure it out, I want to try Larry's lady Ann boilyn air starting system next build. Hope I'm of help to you.
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any luck on your Lady Ann Boleyn yet? I'm going to build one,& try to get one to run on methanol, the power per weight ratio may be good for a rc plane,that would be better than sliced bread!!! I think that's a good choice engine! Can't wait to here a good progress report!gettylee wrote:Hi,here is a suggestion,I use the small air nozzle,air squirter,with a aircompressor@20 to 30 psi.I am able to direct the air stream more precisely,at the small intake,I move the airstream to find the sweet spot,kinda like a flute,trying to get burbles&harmonics,than move in closer&increase gas simultaneously,it takes a bit of patients, but ya get more proficient after you figure it out, I want to try Larry's lady Ann boilyn air starting system next build. Hope I'm of help to you.