M500 build log
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Re: M500 build log
Here it's explaned, unfortunately in Dutch (which is no problem for Metiz and me )
http://www.elektronicaforum.nl/post43762.html
http://www.elektronicaforum.nl/post43762.html
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I found two single phase high pressure water cleaners, together they will do the job. One pumps 6l/min, the other 7,5l/m. Right now I'm (finally!) building them together .
Metiz, did you already think about starting up methods? Somehow I don't just see you stick the little compressed air pistol in the inlets . I think everything should be done a little remotely, for safety.
Fedde
Metiz, did you already think about starting up methods? Somehow I don't just see you stick the little compressed air pistol in the inlets . I think everything should be done a little remotely, for safety.
Fedde
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Hey Fedde,
I've been toying with a few ideas. One of 'em is using a bunch of old (empty!) propanetanks as airtanks, and blowing air through a retractable hose into the intakes.
One other option might be to get an industrail size fan like the Swedish guys used to start their Argus style engine at speed-weekend.
Have you tried pumping fuel through the pumps yet? My uncle expressed some concerns regarding fuel and the rubber seals inside the pumps, i.e., it might eat away at them and cause a (catastrophic?) failure.
I've been toying with a few ideas. One of 'em is using a bunch of old (empty!) propanetanks as airtanks, and blowing air through a retractable hose into the intakes.
One other option might be to get an industrail size fan like the Swedish guys used to start their Argus style engine at speed-weekend.
Have you tried pumping fuel through the pumps yet? My uncle expressed some concerns regarding fuel and the rubber seals inside the pumps, i.e., it might eat away at them and cause a (catastrophic?) failure.
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I worked with in the past with high pressure pumps. There were no rubber seals inside those pumps. Instead they have some kind of bakelite seal to seperate the water from the oil in the carter.
I don't share the concerns. Instead, if we use diesel, I expect the pumps to survive longer than on water because they are better lubricated now
I don't share the concerns. Instead, if we use diesel, I expect the pumps to survive longer than on water because they are better lubricated now
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HA! good news. Diesel is cheaper too so even more good news
Maybe you can contact your fuel guy for a nice kersosine-cooking oil concoction
Maybe you can contact your fuel guy for a nice kersosine-cooking oil concoction
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Kerosin is not available to me anymore
But I'll make a nice mix of gasoline, diesel and vegetable oil. Actually the pumps will be a mixing device
But I'll make a nice mix of gasoline, diesel and vegetable oil. Actually the pumps will be a mixing device
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Start system? Lightweight gas bottle, found it deserted somewhere after a festival. Have two of them.
Mind the cannisters full of FREE vegetable oil next to it. Great fuel for my van. And for PJ's?Your scepticism is fuel for my brain.
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Hey Fedde,
Nice one! Vegetable oil is the way to go but for starting at least, petrol is the easiest I think.
I've just tested the VTOL M40 but I can't get it to start on liquid yet. I'm using M10 nozzles and a PWM to regulate flow but there's no real feedback as to how much fuel I'm giving it so it's tricky. (that and the wires kept coming out) more testing to come.
Nice one! Vegetable oil is the way to go but for starting at least, petrol is the easiest I think.
I've just tested the VTOL M40 but I can't get it to start on liquid yet. I'm using M10 nozzles and a PWM to regulate flow but there's no real feedback as to how much fuel I'm giving it so it's tricky. (that and the wires kept coming out) more testing to come.
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Don't worry, the pump(s) is(are) getting together and it's going to be a 3way multifuel pump: LPG + 3 inlets for different fuels . What did you write earlier? Not to complicated? Well, I'm sorry .....
Here's a photo I didn't manage to get in the PM I wanted to send you:
Here's a photo I didn't manage to get in the PM I wanted to send you:
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Hey Fedde,
I'm not going to nitpick, don't worry "Not a given horse in the mouth looking"
As for the sheet-roller: I think I just wet myself a little. That thing is awesome!
Thank you for doing all this for me man, I realy apreciate it!
I'm not going to nitpick, don't worry "Not a given horse in the mouth looking"
As for the sheet-roller: I think I just wet myself a little. That thing is awesome!
Thank you for doing all this for me man, I realy apreciate it!
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No problems at all. Perhaps I'm just hoping for your next build going to be "M40/40 V-twin" , or even beter M65/65 V-twin....metiz wrote:Thank you for doing all this for me man, I realy apreciate it!
I'll bring my empty Harley frame one of these days
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Like this?
~70 pounds/ 311N
Not too sure about the intake, I'm a bit rusty.
~70 pounds/ 311N
Not too sure about the intake, I'm a bit rusty.
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hehe, looks good! Hopefully not to big for the frame. Anyway, that's for the future, first we have a M500 to start up...
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So what's the story with the sheet roller, how do you "stumble uppon" such a tool?
Any chance you stumbled on an anvil and/ or a 230v lathe?
Any chance you stumbled on an anvil and/ or a 230v lathe?
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Finally some progress!
A friend dropped by last week and left a bunch of goodies, including: literally hundreds of fuel nozzles, 2 powerfull pumps, fuel hoze, a big LPG tank, gallons of fueloil and a freaking sheet roller! Most of it is for loan but it will allow me to all but finish the engine! All that is left now is some sort of staring procedure (air, remote controll etc)
Here are some pics. I finished up the M500 with a viking shield endcap, because I totally meant to do that
Vikingshield endcap
Frontview
LPG tank
Fuelpumps
Another view of the engine
Sliproll
Gallons of fuel
A friend dropped by last week and left a bunch of goodies, including: literally hundreds of fuel nozzles, 2 powerfull pumps, fuel hoze, a big LPG tank, gallons of fueloil and a freaking sheet roller! Most of it is for loan but it will allow me to all but finish the engine! All that is left now is some sort of staring procedure (air, remote controll etc)
Here are some pics. I finished up the M500 with a viking shield endcap, because I totally meant to do that
Vikingshield endcap
Frontview
LPG tank
Fuelpumps
Another view of the engine
Sliproll
Gallons of fuel
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