Self Sustaining DLVD Engine

Jets that defy normal classification

Moderator: Mike Everman

Post Reply
PyroJoe
Posts: 1743
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:44 pm
Antipspambot question: 125
Location: Texas

Self Sustaining DLVD Engine

Post by PyroJoe » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:01 pm

Here is a untested idea for a deflagration to low velocity detonation engine.
For now I am considering low velocity detonation in the neighborhood of 0.45-0.60 of the CJ detonation velocity.
Some references show low velocity detonation to be in the range of 500-1000m/s

Ignition is presumed to occur at the far right of the CC.
Basically as the flame front moves from right to left in the CC, it encounters both blockage geometry and pressure piling to transition.

Not sure if a fuel supplied ejector would pickup enough energy to facilitate a longer detonation volume but may be worth a try.
Attachments
DLVD.pdf
(16.71 KiB) Downloaded 605 times
Last edited by PyroJoe on Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:03 pm, edited 3 times in total.

metiz
Posts: 1575
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:34 pm
Antipspambot question: 125
Location: Netherlands

Re: Self Sustaining DLVD Engine

Post by metiz » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:09 am

Hey Joe

What kind of blockage geometry does the pdf describe precisely? Also, thanks for sharing!
Quantify the world.

PyroJoe
Posts: 1743
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:44 pm
Antipspambot question: 125
Location: Texas

Re: Self Sustaining DLVD Engine

Post by PyroJoe » Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:00 pm

Thanks,
I was thinking of using a stainless coiled fuel line in a Shchelkin Spiral, but think it may cool the transition area which would be unacceptable. There are many reports of various geometry that allow for short Length / Diameter ratios. Would probably need to utilize something along those lines.

It would be difficult to predict how the pressure piling would change the geometry needed. The design is somewhat backwards of what is typically tested, many designers tend to use the exit of the Pulse Jet tail for the primary exit for the detonation wave.


I haven't see anything like this, though it may be out there somewhere. Considering the size of the engine that would be needed and fuel requirements, running this engine could be unpleasant.

May be a good practice for someone who thinks their CFD program is up to snuff. Lots of fun accounting for resonant volume, inertial pumping, deflagration to detonation transition while pressure piling into various blockage geometry.(just joking, this thing would be a nightmare in CFD) :wink:

metiz, thank you also for sharing your work, there are few that do these days.

Post Reply