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Where can I find these chemicals locally?

Post by Zippiot » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:15 pm

I gotta keep adding to the list but for now:
sulfuric acid-highest concentration possible
HCl-highest concentration possible
nitric acid-60-70%
CopperIIsulfate
CopperIIoxide
Barium nitrate
Hydrogen peroxide-highest concentration possible, but 30% min plz
iodine (iodide) crystals

picric acid-??

Thats all I can think of now...
I need to find these locally, nothing over the internet and not from a chemical store (none in the area). Like something from a local hardware store or wal-mart is preferable...Over the counter things if possible
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Post by Hank » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:55 pm

You won't find anything on your shopping list that would be construed as "over the counter". Concentrated acids are regulated and the rest of the chemicals you mention don't have an "over the counter" market. Search for mail order providers of same, is my advise, and expect to have a strange vehicle parked down the block from your place if you do.

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Post by Zippiot » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:01 pm

I heard that one type of drain cleaner was sulfuric acid...but that doesn't seem right (possibly eat through the pipes...)
Car battery acid is 40% sulfuric...anything higher than that I might find in another product?

I know I wont find the chemicals alone, they are mostly mixed with others and such, just wondering if any products have highly concentraed acids in them...?
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Post by Al Belli » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:27 pm

Hi Zippiot,

Picric acid is highly explosive !!!!!

http://www.tc.gc.ca/canutec/en/articles ... picric.htm

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Post by Zippiot » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:31 pm

Yeah I know, was gonna mix it with some stuff to make a bottle rocket that explodes with a bright green color.
Unless you know of a better way to accomplish this :)
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Post by Greg O'Bryant » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:37 am

Zippiot Yes one type of drain cleaner is H2SO4 I don't know what it's concentration was, but it seemed very heavy If you have a hydrometer you could figure out what its percentage is or maybe contact th company that makes it. I saw it a few years ago at Lowes. Don't know if they still carry it. I would avoid making any type of explosive thet the ATF would lable as a high explosive like picric acid. Even if you are just trying to make a few pyrotechnic pieces you are still looking at potential felony charges. What I sugest doing if you are really in to this stuff is to locate pyrotechnics club or company that will let you help them set up and light off their displays or maybe even experiment with some mixtures. I can tell you nothing quite compares to setting off an 8" shell with a road flair:) although I have hered that 10" are that much better!

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Post by Zippiot » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:51 am

I love the itnernet, after near years of using all the search engines, dogpile yeilded me a good result
http://www.nitrogenorder.org/lessons/household.shtml
yay!!

I was planning on making ammonium picrate (i think...well I have the page bookmarked). It doesn't combine with metals to make the dangerous salts and is much less reactive than picric acid...

There is a huge rocket club in my area, but they do not allow experimentals and the like...not to say they don't know anyhtign about the experimental rockets and explosives...just they don't use them in public.

I really don't have a specific goal with this stuff, just seeking knowledge. But I would like to make little exploding bottle rockets, add in some copper sulfate to make it blue or iron fillings to make little white sparks...
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Post by El-Kablooey » Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:26 am

Take some friendly advice and stay awayfrom most of the mentioned chemicals. You will just get in trouble, or hurt. Especially stay away from the iodine crystals, unless you want your local sherrifs dept. keeping a close watch on you. Believe me, if you go buying iodine they will be watching you.
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Post by Zippiot » Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:38 am

What can iodine do besides amonium tri-iodide?
I have a little squirt bottle full of iodine from an old science class that was throwing it out, is this stuff useable?
Just wonder, not gonna make ammonium tri-iodide...
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Post by Zippiot » Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:58 pm

Drugs!! They use iodine to make drugs, I get it!
Hell 1/2 the chemicals on my list are used to make drugs huh? Which is more illegal fireworks or drugs?
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