"JET"

[Mark]

http://www.jet.efda.org/
http://www.jet.efda.org/images/J9443big.jpg
http://www.jet.efda.org/images/J98103-1000x720.jpg
Mark

[mk]

Impressive!

[yipster]

yeah, thats where its gonna go i belive. new tabletop experiments with spherical instead of torroidal plasma's are reported to have succes also
and ultimatly it's supposed to lead to a H-H reaction...

[hagent]

Wow. Looks like something out of 2001 Space Odyssey.

I forgett, how do they extract the energy out of an H-H reaction anyways?

Hagen

[Bruno Ogorelec]

I forgett, how do they extract the energy out of an H-H reaction anyways?

At the moment, I guess it's still, KABOOOM... oops, there goes another Pacific atoll.

[mk]

At the moment, I guess it's still, KABOOOM... oops, there goes another Pacific atoll.

Hmmm, maybe not.
More a "pfsch". Plasma containment partially fried and mostly vaporized.
The involved amounts of H are, or rather the density of the plasma is rediciously small. You're not getting the effect of a H-bomb, IMHO.

Do they really just use radiation to get the energy? I think so. What else?

A really negative aspect of those "absolutely clean" H-H reaction units is that radioactive contamination is caused in the containment. Don't ask me how strong the effect is. I cannot remember it anymore.

[mk]

Oh, I over-read the "still". OK, thanks Ben. It's getting just too late. Perhaps I should go for getting some kind of sleep or something. Maybe a coffee...

Yeah, yeah, I got that with the radiation losses -- "Bremsstrahlung"; It's alomost becoming a German speaking forum, eh? -- but how do they extract/harvest the energy output else? My knowledge about these things is rather crude and I forgot a lot of things already.

[larry cottrill]

German words are fun, though I'd be completely lost in Germany.

In German, even love poems have Sturm und Drang.

Angst, too, when needed.

L Cottrill

[Bruno Ogorelec]

German words are fun, though I'd be completely lost in Germany.

Not only are they fun, they are also exact. Wunderbar if you're doing science or engineering.

But, remarkably adaptable to poetry, too. Some of the world's best poetry ever was written in German, remember. Dürrenmatt, Goethe, Grass, Heine, Hoelderlin, Rilke...

[Mike Everman]

Some of the world's best poetry ever was written in German, remember.

Yeah, that and Klingon.

[Bruno Ogorelec]

Yeah, that and Klingon.

Bwahahahaha. touche. But, I still stand by my defense of one of the finest linguistic tools on the planet. I still remember a British BMW advertisement in the 1970s. BMW just got out a fancy new engine with a very intricate combustion chamber design and the ad went something like this -- a guy says, 'My car has got a dreikugelwirkungsbrennkammer. And yours?'

[Mark]

Farfegnugen.
Mark

[yipster]

jawol das deutch ist wonderbaar, coming back to england, JET and fusion i brushed up my memory. if i'm right there is only one real element (H), the original from witch all other elements are formed, but hit me if you think diffrent 8)



some possible H fussion examples:
fusion processes in our sun:
1H + 1H --> 2H + positron + neutrino
1H + 2H --> 3He + foton
3He + 3He --> 4He + 1H + 1H
fusion research mainly focuses on:
2H + 2H --> 3He (0,82 MeV) + n (2,45 MeV)
2H + 2H --> 3H (1,01 MeV) + 1H (3,02 MeV)

and here all the info and more
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hb ... usion.html
http://fusedweb.pppl.gov/CPEP/Chart.html
http://www.iter.org/index.htm
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/thyd/icf/DT_fusion.html
http://particleadventure.org/particleadventure/
http://w3.pppl.gov/~dstotler/Overview_Y ... /frame.htm
http://www-p24.lanl.gov/
http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/12/3/8
http://www.focusfusion.org/energy2.html
2H + 3H --> 4He (3,5 MeV) + n (14,1 MeV)

[mk]

Oh, well, one thing I screwed up with, while I was tired the night, has been:
Heat is LF radiation and particle movement. Or rather the latter case makes for the first, right?
Oh, dear! Who's going to study physics? Me?


Hmmm...German definitions especially of technical stuff are very long words. And nearly everybody finds new arrangements or even other words for the same case. Terrible! Especially when searching some stuff.
Ever heard of the Schwingbrennkammer nach Reynst; Reynst Oszillator; Pulsations(brenn)kammer... etc. English seems to me way simpler in some cases.

You owe me a beer, Mike!
But Klingon is rather known as Bavarian (accent), I think.

Ahhh, Mark ment Fahrvergnügen/Fahrvergnuegen. Mark's spelling rather reminds me on Danish, Swedish or Norvegian, then.

[yipster]

is there a referendum in germany also bout the new euro laws?
here in holland it seems a majority has had it with the government and euro.
in france, they speak french there, it appears sunday will give the same result.
how many different languages in the 26? member states now?
and my dad once study'd "esparanto" or something.

i rather some physics and hope somehow someday fusion and fission go hand in hand and we can make the element gold both way's :twisted: